As conventional sources of electricity generation begin to dwindle, due to the finite nature of the fossil fuel resource, replacement generation must come in the form of renewable energy projects. The Dec 4, 2007 issue of the RG contains an editorial essentially supporting the Fall Creek reservoir retrofit with hydroelectric turbines capable of providing 10 MW of renewable power - arguing further that "in the context of renewable energy sources 10 MW isn't small at all". However, this statement requires more quantitative scrutiny: 1. The total cost of the retrofit is estimated by EPUD to lie between 14-25 million dollars or equivalently between 1.4 and 2.5 dollars per watt (and the latter value is expensive by current renewable energy standards) 2. The average required power in the Eugene-Springfield area is in the range 400-500 MW - 10 MW of power could be saved merely if each of the approximately 125,000 households in the service area merely changed out 1 100 Watt incandascent light bulb with a 20 Watt CFL - so in that context, why do we even need an extra 10 MW facility retrofitted to a dam for approximately 20 million dollars that won't even come on line for another 6-7 years? 3. As we discuss in my energy policy class at the University of Oregon - very large scale renewable projects are now possible (but of course have high capital cost). Examples include a) a tidal fence/wind turbine project across the straight of Juan de Fuca which could easily generate 30,000 MW; b) a 100 square km concentrated solar power facility located in Northern Nevada could produce 10,000 MW; c) Off shore wind power, at unit capacity of 5 MW per turbine could easily generate 20,000 MW along the Oregon coast. In the 1930s, when there was a need for energy sources, leadership (FDR) championed very large scale infrastructure projects in the American west. We need a similar spirit now if we are to successfully transition from our fossil fuel economy to a more sustainable one, given our voracious consumption. Careful choices need to be made as we are running out of raw materials for infrastructure due mostly to China's incredible rate of growth. As an example, the material requirements (mostly steel) for ocean energy power buoys are 8 times larger (per produced MW) than for wind turbines - therefore we must choose wisely if we are to eventually replace the approximately 700,000 MW of current USA electricity generation from fossils (mostly coal); 10 MW here or there is more symbolic than functional - we must implement on much larger scales before time has run out. Greg Bothun Professor of Physics